Gretchen & Meredith, "The Amazing Race"

Here's my conversation with Gretchen Meredith Smith, the couple who came in fourth on "The Amazing Race" this spring.

They told all sorts of behind-the-scenes stories about what it was like working with the TV crews, how they dealt with losing all their money and clothing when they were last to arrive at a pit stop during a non-elimination round, how they felt about Rob and Amber, what really happened when Brian and Greg's 4x4 overturned in the African desert, why Gretchen was on top of that wooden elephant that Meredith was struggling to push up an Indian street, and much more.  If you're a fan of the show, you'll love these first-person stories -- Listen, then click here to subscribe to these podcasts via iTunes!

The 8th season of "The Amazing Race" begins next month on CBS, and it's a family affair -- instead of two people on each team, there will be four, and they're all family members.  Word is that, because kids as young as 8 were involved, the race took place entirely in North America, was much shorter than previous races, and included tasks and routes more appropriate for families.  As a longtime fan of the show, I hope this isn't the season when "The Amazing Race" jumps the shark (or, as the phrase goes now, in honor of Tom Cruise's escapades on Oprah, "jumps the couch").

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